Earlier this week on my YouTube channel, I was bold enough to do something that very few men who are a part of what’s now known as ‘the manosphere’ would ever think about doing: I challenged the validity of the popular movement known as MGTOW (which stands for ‘Men Going Their Own Way’).
I basically stated in one of my YouTube video podcasts that there are at least two factions of the MGTOW movement that I am willing to acknowledge and generally offer my respect to. On the other hand, I expressed that there are other factions of MGTOW that I just recently became aware of that I simply refuse to acknowledge and will never view as valid.
MGTOW Men: Exactly Where Are These Men Supposed to be ‘Going?’
Men who follow and subscribe to the MGTOW philosophy claim that they are “going their own way.” My legitimate question is, “Just where is it these men are going? More importantly, where are these men coming from?”
MGTOW men generally see themselves as “anti-feminism,” “anti-gynocentrism,” and very “Red Pill Aware.” I do not necessarily have a problem with those objectives and principles.
Related article: Manosphere 101: Red Pill vs. Blue Pill vs. Purple Pill
Many MGTOW subscribers believe in becoming voluntarily asexual and indefinitely celibate. No argument from me on this issue. If these men choose to be modern day “monks,” more power to them. Good luck.
Many other MGTOW followers still believe in engaging in semi-regular or occasional episodes of short-term non-monogamous sexual enjoyment with women, but only if the woman is the initiator and the assertive one, leaving the man in the position to reciprocate the woman’s sexual desires and interests, or reject them. In addition, these particular MGTOW followers do not believe in marriage, long-term monogamy, or intentionally impregnating women and co-parenting with women. On this issue, I also have no problem with or harsh criticisms toward this particular faction of the MGTOW movement.
MGTOW Men as … Incorrigible Womanizers? Financially Generous “Tricks?” #NoWay
Recently, many men have made it clear to me that some MGTOW followers and subscribers also claim to be “prolific womanizers” and financially generous “tricks.” Okay. This is where I draw the line. How can one be an assertive and prolific womanizer – a ladies’ man who initiates conversations with women and actively pursues women for sexual companionship on a regular basis – but yet still be considered “going his own way?” This is the most ridiculous concept I have ever heard of.
I have my own acronym for these “add-on” factions of MGTOW that I have been made aware of: G.T.F.O.H.
THE BETA MALE REVOLUTION
In my book, The Beta Male Revolution: Why Many Men Have Totally Lost Interest in Marriage in Today’s Society, I divide all heterosexual men into four archetypes:
• Total Alpha males
• Alpha males with a few Beta traits & tendencies
• Beta males with a few Alpha traits & tendencies
• Total Beta males
Generally speaking, an “Alpha male” is a man who carries himself in a very confident, highly self-assured manner when socializing with women, and he is also very erotically dominant with women sexually in the bedroom. An Alpha male will generally lead or even dominate every romantic and sexual relationship he is involved in with women.
Related article: Alpha males vs. Beta males
Conversely, a “Beta male” is a man who tends to be more compromising when dealing with women, more accommodating and helpful with women, more financially generous with women, more monogamy-oriented and family-oriented in his relationships with women, and he behaves in a manner that is far more fawning and deferential toward women than Alpha male types do. Beta males will generally allow women to dictate the terms and conditions of any romantic or sexual relationship that they are involved in with women.
Related article: Only Weak Beta Males Love a ‘Bossy Bitch’
Because of the rise of the manosphere and many of the negative effects of the various ‘waves’ of feminism, Beta males have become much more “Red Pill Aware” and are beginning to rebel against the traditional beliefs and attitudes toward marriage, long-term monogamy, and raising children with women.
Related article: How the Manosphere Contributed to Today’s Animosity Between Men and Women
Fact #1: No Womanizing Alpha Male Ever Needs to Refer to Himself as “MGTOW”
As I point out in my book, The Beta Male Revolution, very few if any true Alpha males feel romantically and/or sexually frustrated when it comes to their relationships with women. Alpha males generally ‘have their way’ with women. Therefore, there is no real need for any Alpha male to “go his own way.” Particularly, those Alpha males who I refer to as “Total Alpha males” (or “womanizing Alpha males”). Why would any man who is a womanizing Alpha male need to subscribe to the beliefs and tenets of MGTOW? That would be like a man who has already been a 15-year strict vegetarian going out of his way to declare himself publicly as a ‘raw vegan.’
To a slightly lesser extent, the same thing goes for the men who are Alpha males with a few Beta traits & tendencies. Sure, these men are a bit more monogamy-oriented and family oriented than the Total Alpha male types, but even these men are highly respected by their long-term romantic companions and spouses to the point where their female partners are always going to defer to them and these women will rarely if ever challenge their male leadership.
Fact #2: Only Beta Male Types Have a Genuine Motivation to Subscribe to the MGTOW Philosophy
Only the men who are Beta males with a few Alpha traits & tendencies and Total Beta male types will usually develop a motivation to want to follow a movement such as MGTOW. Because I am ridiculously biased toward my own concepts, I more so see these two types of men as actively engaging in more of a Beta Male Revolution than I view these same Beta male types as being legitimate followers of the MGTOW movement. Especially if their objective is to still actively pursue women for sexual enjoyment and satisfaction.
Beta males are the men in society who are the most romantically and sexually frustrated when it comes to their social interactions with women. These are the men who spend the most money on women, who excessively flatter women the most, who maintain purely platonic friendships with women the most frequently, and who usually end up as the step-father to the biological children of one or more Alpha males.
In other words, for any MGTOW follower to believe that he is a “womanizing Alpha male” is nothing less than delusional and oxymoronic. This would be like a male stripper, a gigolo, or a male adult film (porn) star referring to himself as MGTOW. It would simply not make any sense at all.
You take me, for example.
I am . . .
– Red Pill Aware
– Not married, and never have proposed marriage to any woman
– Not a strong believer in long-term (“obligatory”) monogamy
– Not the biological father of any children (that I know of)
– Anti-Feminism
– Anti-Gynocentrism
– Against the idea of “fawning” over women or playing up to their egos excessively
– Against the idea of being any woman’s financially generous ‘trick’ and/or ‘Sugar Daddy’
– Sexually active with women, usually within the context of either a short-term non-monogamous relationship or a long-term non-monogamous relationship
So … with all of these attributes of mine, should I also consider myself MGTOW?
I surely will … on the exact same day President Donald Trump is elected the President of the N.A.A.C.P. and the U.S.A. becomes allies with North Korea.
In my (extremely biased) opinion, the Beta Male Revolution is far more relevant and valid in today’s dating scene than the MGTOW movement is. It is the Beta males of society that need to change their beliefs and attitudes the most drastically, and weed out all of their former “Blue Pill” social programming as it relates to interacting with women. The vast majority of Alpha males in society already know what’s up. The Alpha males of society have been “Red Pill Aware” since the early days of the Second Wave of Feminism. Alpha males are well aware of the fickle and spoiled ways of women and women’s sexually duplicitous nature.
Alpha males do not need to experience a transformation of any sort.
It is the Beta males who do. Most urgently.
The men who are actively involved in the Beta Male Revolution are on a mission …
… and that mission continues.
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I am 50 years old and never met an alpha man in my life. I know guys that could scre or had hundreds of woman but they all settled down, married – and the woman got fat or lazy once the glitter was put on them.. You gonna walk away then alpha boy? Or stay in the mental trap?
thats really what it comes down to. Not getting trapped in the mental traps of life.
When you are at work and the little bitch undercuts you in a meeting..do you know to stand up and fight politically correct or do you take it the ass or do you mouth off and get fired?
You can be anti all you want – but you gotta know how to win.
I don’t hear or see very man alpha’s. All I see is all talk but then are weak ass wimps when the dirty work of getting rid of these problems come into focus. Also- If your saying your alpha..where are you going? So you got your rocks off on some nutty ass crazy bitch. You want some type woman validation medal?. Just go to your local pub and unless the man is hideous he can find hood rats by the dozens. All hail! I squirted in some flee infested woman who has a 50 IQ. Great!
You seem to me a PUA-like slowly transitioning to MGTOW, but still undecided.
It’s a sign of maturity, I praise you but you still have a part of path to walk.
Personally I believe that if a man in his early 20s isn’t PUA / player, then he’s worthless because he lacks balls, and if the same man in his 40s isn’t MGTOW, then he’s worthless because he lacks brain.
There isn’t such great difference: PUAs are younger, have less experience, they need women just only for sexual validation, and women are interchangeable. MGTOW are older, have plenty experiences, don’t need sexual validation anymore – women become totally useless to them.
A day you’ll reach full maturity and you’ll finally admit what we both know: there’s no such thing as “alpha” and “beta”: if a man in his 20s wants to get pussy he just have to buy a leather jacket, hitting the gym, having an original hairstyle, then trying to approach enough women until he develops enough verbal fluidity and experience. It’s a matter of few months, at worst. Once he learned that, most of those skills are permanent. And then those skills become useless.
I will never refer to myself as MGTOW. Never. Ever.
It seems to me that you already did, by alleging that you’re “alpha” and adding that “alphas already go their own way, as default”.
I also suggest to revise your definitions: getting sex after 48 hours isn’t such great thing: I would classify it as “beta” if “beta” would be a thing. Waiting weeks is already “masochism”, unless she’s virgin .
Getting sex after about 2 hours would be more “alpha” – bonus point if you have sex in a public place, like a foam party on the dance floor of a disco.
Great article! However, I disagree that there are only two valid forms of MGTOW. True MGTOW is about focusing on the self, as a man. A man can seek female companionship, while still going his own way, as long as it doesn’t override his focus on self development. Only if a man spends a great deal of time and effort pursuing women, does he invalidate any claim to be MGTOW.
More importantly, its not a contradiction for a MGTOW minded man to buy ARC books, as it aids a man’s effort to develop himself while not wasting time with women. Women are not the most important thing in the Universe, but a lil female companionship is ok.
GTFOH all the way!
Great article but I have to call foul on one key area. The writer paints non-alphas as losers. I’m not saying it was intentional. I’m just saying that’s how it read to me. Non-alpha (or non-select) men have it harder. Not acknowledging the FACT that the playing field is not level is a bit disingenuous. Still, great writing.
I think females in America didn’t realize, that by making society aware of the fact that technology,(and tax payer $) has helped them become more independent ; they accidentally made men aware of the fact that they too, are more independent. I mean, let’s face it ; since the beginning of time, men were born with the ability to be independent. The more women claim their independence, the more they isolate themselves. “Let society “demonize” men, for going there own way. There’s no law in the United States that requires men to get married, or have children. It’s not irresponsible. It’s not a bad thing. It’s simply our freedom to do so……It’s actually more irresponsible to have children and not take care of them. Like the72% of African-American homes w/out a father. It’s only irresponsible when white men do it, because it screws up a lot of big business in this county. (Real estate/Housing, Marital industry, combined median taxable income. .etc…etc….That’s why it’s bad, because certain industries are losing a lot of $….For instance the wedding industry used to make $5 billion annually. I don’t know exactly what it is now…but I know it’s hemorrhaging $. The average cost of a wedding is roughly $26,000, and that doesn’t even include the cost of the ring…….MGTOW!